
With no guests in sight, Michael and Daniel have a conversation about managing business goals, business as a numbers game, and the pain of losing a pet.
About the Hosts:
- Daniel Herndon is a brand strategist at HRNDN Brand Agency (HRNDN.com) and author of The Lorem Ipsum (danielkherndon.com).
- Michael Salemi owns a branded apparel and promotional products company, Colored Threads (colored-threads.com).
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